Their personal philistinism simply adds brutality and double-darkness to policies they would be forced to support anyhow by the pressure of all their other policies — even were they, personally, devotees of avant-garde culture. This entry was posted in Uncategorized and tagged 11pas2. This made trying times for artists of this era because artists rely on these exact subjects to construct art appealing to a particular audience. Anyway — thanks for bringing him up. But on avant-garde “kitsch” as potentially transcending these High Art dynamics, I’m not so sure.
It was necessary to promote on a much more grandiose style than in the democracies the illusion that the masses actually rule. Or is that only a dangerous liability? I think we need to be specific here. So for me, it’s not a matter of kicking Greenberg around, or of valorizing him although he was always very supportive of the artists he admired, and did a lot for them, including one of my dad’s painter friends. A magazine like the New Yorker, which is fundamentally high-class kitsch for the luxury trade, converts and waters down a great deal of avant-garde material for its own uses. Avant-garde does not consist of accidental beauty but beauty in control of the incontrollable.
Avant-Garde and Kitsch
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I never said anything like that bazaar quote. Then the plebian finds courage for the first time to voice his opinions openly. In Repin, on the other hand, the “reflected” effect has already been included in the picture, ready for the spectator’s unreflective enjoyment. Today we look to socialism simply for the preservation of whatever living culture we have right now.
II Where there is an avant-garde, generally we also find a rear-guard. Repin is what the peasant wants, and nothing else but Repin. One, after all, can be reproduced as cheaply as the other. The abstract technique — to accept Macdonald’s supposition, which I am inclined to doubt — reminds him somewhat of the icons he has left behind him in the village, and he feels the lcement of the familiar.
Avant-Garde and Kitsch – Wikipedia
I mean, whether these things are good or bad is all contingent on circumstances, right? The avant-garde’s specialization of itself, the fact that its best artists are artists’ artists, its best poets, poets’ poets, has estranged a great many of those who were capable formerly of enjoying and appreciating ambitious art and literature, but who are now unwilling or unable to acquire an initiation into their craft secrets.
But the ultimate values which the cultivated spectator derives from Picasso are derived at a second remove, as the result of reflection upon the immediate impression left by the plastic values. Greenberg made reference to the avant-garde artists.
THe idea that it has to take that kind of meta experiment is thoroughly supported by academic studies. Again, I would really have to know the context of the bazaar quote.
Haven’t had time to look for it yet, but not that big aand deal, I guess. I have many more things to say but I will limit myself to one thread of thought: Critical EssaysClement Greenberg, Boston: If the examples of the demise of the avant-garde in Europe were extreme, the governmental use of American artists to its own end was also disturbing to an intellectual. According to the critic, The precondition for kitscha condition without which kitsch would be impossible, is the availability close at hand of a fully matured cultural tradition, whose discoveries, acquisitions, and perfected self-consciousness kitsch can take advantage of for its own ends.
The idea that the only way to problematize the author is by using found text or fake author meta ways is very reductive and it doesn’t take into account all kinds of social dynamics that may cleent into a mere little “painting”. The answer involves grewnberg than an investigation in aesthetics.
Exoskeleton: Clement Greenberg’s “Avant Garde and Kitsch”
Precisely because his content was determined in advance, the artist was free to concentrate on his medium. It becomes difficult to assume anything.
Good comments by Bob Archambeau. It is quite possible for the Soviet state to do this. Folk Culture, Formal Culture, and Kitsch.
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I’m glad he was out there, trying to theorize a relationship to this new phenomenon that wasn’t simple celebration. Joyelle argues more or less the same, in the essays by her greenebrg posted. And at such moments in history the masses are able to feel wonder and admiration for the culture, on no matter how high a plane, of its masters.
I owe this formulation to a remark made by Hans Hofmann, the art teacher, in one of his lectures. He came, later, to reject greenverg of the essay — notably the definition of kitsch which he later believed to be ill thought out as, indeed, it is.
But aside from the fact that most of our best contemporary novelists have gone to school with the avant-garde, it is significant that Gide’s most ambitious book is a novel about the writing of a novel, and aavnt Joyce’s Ulysses and Finnegans Wake seem to be, above all, as one French critic says, the reduction of experience to expression for the sake of expression, the expression mattering more than what is being expressed.